Terry Bouricius on multi-body sortition and redesigning democratic lawmaking
Ep. 59

Terry Bouricius on multi-body sortition and redesigning democratic lawmaking

Episode description

Terry Bouricius is a former Vermont lawmaker who has spent decades working on democracy reform, now focused on sortition — the use of random selection to form representative citizens’ bodies. His experience as both a politician and reformer led him to question whether elections are actually democratic. In this episode, he explains why he sees elected legislatures as inherently oligarchic, drawing on citizens’ assemblies, ancient Athens, and experiments in Ireland and elsewhere. We discuss how randomly selected bodies could make laws, how technology and AI might support deliberation, why advisory assemblies need real consequences, and why politicians may have little incentive to pursue consensus. Bouricius also outlines his vision for a multi-body democracy beyond elections.