Alberto Fernandez Gibaja leads International IDEA’s global work at the intersection of technology and democracy. In this conversation, he discusses how the early optimism around digital technology changed after Brexit, Trump, and the rise of disinformation, why tech companies can be as powerful as medium-sized countries, and why democratic societies need more control over data, infrastructure, foundation models, and AI applications. We also discuss digital sovereignty, data rights, the limits of direct democracy, political parties, expertise, and why the difficult part of democratic innovation is often political will rather than technology.